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PostSubject: Boss of the Organization   Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:46 am

We still don't know who the actual boss of the B.O. (Black Organization) What are you guys' thoughts of who this person is?

Personally, I wish that Kogoro would be the boss but I'm sure that there is no way that it is him. However it would be the greatest twist ever.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:06 pm

Kogoro would be an ultimate mind blowing twist, but as you stated there is no possible way for it to be him. I kind of like the theory that Agasa could be the boss, but again i highly doubt that it would be him as well. Over all i think that maybe just maybe it might be meguire or another cop but that seems to boring. I have gone over the old manga chapters trying to see if anyone could look suspicious enough to be the boss but so far to no avail. But that doesn't mean I wont stop looking for him/her :-)

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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:49 pm

Aoyama-sensei has said that Agasa is not the boss, unless he's throwing out a curveball.

I have read some of the theories on the Conan World forum. They've ranged from Eri, Shinichi's parents, and even one or two of the detective boys for some reason. To me, everybody is suspicious.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:22 am

I will burst out laughing if Kogoro ends being the BO leader. Smile I do think it could be FBI agent James Black. Being a leader in the FBI would be an interesting cover to hide any criminal activity. He would always know what was going on with Conan and company and therefore have the upper hand. Then again, I still find agent Camel suspicious. He seems to muck up things up a little too often to be convenient, such as when he originally blew Shu's cover. Yet another possibility could be Jimmy's father. I think that would be an interesting plot twist. I'm also even considering Heji's dad, even though there's not really any evidence to support it, as he's always seems to be
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:41 am

James Black is a good candidate. He would defiantly benefit from being in his position.

Eri would be a good candidate too. She's a lawyer that knows all of the loopholes. Her husband used to be a policeman.

Yet again Ai has said that Conan has been in an experiment that has been going on for over 50 years. So the boss is probably older than that unless there was more than one boss. Heck the "boss" could just be some imaginary person. Like a computer program that gives orders and someone is the voice of the program.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:29 am

Hmm maybe it is a computer program. That would be an interesting angle. I suppose it would make sense since the BO were hiring computer programmers at one point. At this moment, though, I agree that everyone is suspicious.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:38 am

Rule #1 to any kind of mystery show, everybody is suspicious.

That whole computer program thing is just something that I just wrote on a whim. Now thinking it over again, I must have played too much fallout over the years. However it would be interesting for the boss to be a program. Heck they probably hired programmers to create something like GLADOS from the portal series.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:14 pm

Nooooo it can't be a computer program. That to me would be so cheap in terms of deduction lol. But if i remember right the boss was shown at some point in the start of the manga.

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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:18 pm

I heard of that too but it's so hard to tell who could be the boss. And Aoyama keeps on teasing about that. He hinted recently that we may have heard them speak.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:37 am

Yeah, I'm trying to go over all the characters that have appeared and see which seems the most likely to be the boss. With a hint like "We may have heard him speak" I wonder if it's someone that Conan has used as his "puppet". Haha maybe it is Kogoro or Sonoko. I haven't read vol 15 of the manga, yet, so I can't confirm this, but I've heard that in the manga version, one of the Two Mix singers had a connection to the BO so maybe it's them.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:30 pm

Hearing him speak is just another teaser from him that we wont figure out till he shows us the boss lol

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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:00 pm

Yeah we won't know who the boss is but it still is fun trying to figure out who this person is.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:37 am

Definitely! The possible suspects seem endless. I don't trust any of them. Especially not Goro/Ricky the cat. He's the most suspicious  Wink .
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:39 am

Yeah those eyes may look cute but behind them is a killer. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:17 pm

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Yeah, I'm trying to go over all the characters that have appeared and see which seems the most likely to be the boss. With a hint like "We may have heard him speak" I wonder if it's someone that Conan has used as his "puppet". Haha maybe it is Kogoro or Sonoko. I haven't read vol 15 of the manga, yet, so I can't confirm this, but I've heard that in the manga version, one of the Two Mix singers had a connection to the BO so maybe it's them.

There is no connection between Two-Mix and Black Org, actually. The only thing close is that the voice actress for Conan in the Japanese dub of the series was married to Gosho Aoyama and is a member of Two-Mix though and she does supposedly know who the boss is.

Of course, some interviews with Gosho have confirmed that Agasa is not the boss and there are reports that he or she may have a connection with Haibara.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:27 pm

There was also a recent interview that said that Ran is not the boss. Who on earth thought that Ran was the boss? O.o I would have guessed that maybe a relative of Kogoro like a cousin or sibling would be the boss or be part of the organization. Not his own daughter. We barely know anything about Kogoro's past with the exception of being in the police force and Eri.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:32 pm

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There was also a recent interview that said that Ran is not the boss. Who on earth thought that Ran was the boss? O.o I would have guessed that maybe a relative of Kogoro like a cousin or sibling would be the boss or be part of the organization. Not his own daughter. We barely know anything about Kogoro's past with the exception of being in the police force and Eri.

We hardly know much about Sera's family either. For all we know, the boss could be related to her and/or Akai, though Akai going undercover might have been noticed sooner if that were the case.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:38 pm

That is true. There is just so much that we don't know about that family either. Heck pretty much everybody has something we don't know about. Mostly with family relations and family members. We still don't know any of the Detective Boys' parents other than Genta's dad.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:44 pm

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That is true. There is just so much that we don't know about that family either. Heck pretty much everybody has something we don't know about. Mostly with family relations and family members. We still don't know any of the Detective Boys' parents other than Genta's dad.

I think that the only ones that can be safely discarded are those confirmed by Gosho to not be the boss, and Mrs. Kudo, at least until something suspicious about her does come up.

For now, I think the boss is a male, unless they are attracted to their own sex, since Vermouth is supposedly the boss's favorite.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:48 pm

That I agree with. Bourbon recently almost did say that Vermouth was the boss's something. What that something is, who know. Wife? Sister? Best Friend? Daughter?
It defiantly not Yuukiko for she is Vermouth's friend and Shinichi's Mom. Why would she want to put her own son in danger?
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:54 pm

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That I agree with. Bourbon recently almost did say that Vermouth was the boss's something. What that something is, who know. Wife? Sister? Best Friend? Daughter?
It defiantly not Yuukiko for she is Vermouth's friend and Shinichi's Mom. Why would she want to put her own son in danger?

I'd say the same for Jimmy's dad, though his mom has done much more to help, with how often she has been coming to Japan, since she was said to have fixed up Akai's disguise.

If it were daughter, female suspects are back in, but considering that we do not know of Jimmy's grandparents or even anyone before the generation of Jimmy's parents, that would be unlikely.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:29 pm

It's hard to say but i dont think Vermouth Is related to the boss in anyway. Maybe a goof friend of his but nothing romantic or blood related. Especially since she tends to help conan defeat some of their nplans from time to time.

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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:37 pm

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It's hard to say but i dont think Vermouth Is related to the boss in anyway.  Maybe a goof friend of his but nothing romantic or blood related.  Especially since she tends to help conan defeat some of their nplans from time to time.

She does have to have a strong relationship though, since it was already pointed out that she threatened Bourbon when he was about to say how she and the boss were related exactly.

Also, do not forget that it has only been fairly recent that she has been helping him, since she was not on his side in New York and she only wanted to keep Jimmy and Rachel out of the affairs of Black Org due to the New York incident. She had no real intention of sparing Haibara when her disguise was exposed by the FBI and Conan, nor did she help Haibara escape in the Bell Tree Express arc. All she did there was purposely overlook the fact that Haibara did not die.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:45 pm

I'm not completely caught up so im using outdated info im sure lol/ But to me she has always wanted to hunt down Haibara. That's like one thing she will not let go of and for decent reasons. to her she betrayed the organization so i get that. But i don't know. To me it always seems like she has had a soft spot for conan and she generally tries to avoid his affairs even if it concerns the B/O. But again things are outdated on my end and i could have misinterpreted her actions entirely so ya.

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PostSubject: Re: Boss of the Organization   Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:52 pm

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I'm not completely caught up so im using outdated info im sure lol/  But to me she has always wanted to hunt down Haibara.  That's like one thing she will not let go of and for decent reasons.  to her she betrayed the organization so i get that.  But i don't know.  To me it always seems like she has had a soft spot for conan and she generally tries to avoid his affairs even if it concerns the B/O.  But again things are outdated on my end and i could have misinterpreted her actions entirely so ya.

Better get caught up now then, since the reprintings and the availability of the manga in digital format makes it easy to do so.

However, some of the stuff mentioned here has not happened in the US releases, since the US is pretty far behind.
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